Dean Burmeister over 5 years ago

The way the tool settings work now allow me to fence a file and drop what I want, such as just the dimensions, while leaving other element types alone. I'd say it is working as intended.

Jan Šlegr over 5 years ago

Hi Ian,

can you provide some use case to describe better what your idea is? I concern about similar situation described by Dean: How to solve the situation with more elements of different types will be selected?

I see also another problem: There are elements type that allow "drop chain", e.g. TextNode can be dropped to independent Text elements and they can be dropped to primitive elements. Also SharedCell can be dropped to normal cell and in the next step to primitive elements. How the automation should work / be defined in these scenarios?

So until more precise description including rules for the mentioned scenarios will be provided, -1 from me. ... I don't reject the idea of more intelligent Drop Element tool in general, but better definition of the idea should be provided.

Regards,

Jan

Ian Lapper over 5 years ago

Jan/Dean

I suppose what I am asking is...

99% of the time people use the drop tool to drop shapes and line strings, thus having this set by default will aid users productivity. I know this can be set behind the icon and I have done this to my clients. But I feel this should be default.

Also, as an example

If you activate the Drop tool and do not set anything... if you select a Dimension it should know its a dimension and drop it , without having to select the drop dim option. Same applies to Multilines, text etc.

Ian

Jan Šlegr over 5 years ago

Hi Ian,

> 99% of the time people use the drop tool to drop shapes and line strings, thus having this set by default will aid users productivity.

So you want to change the default setting for the tool? It's a bit different (and simplier) issue than make the tool inteligent. And ... well ... I don't believe it's 99%.

> If you activate the Drop tool and do not set anything... if you select a Dimension it should know its a dimension and drop it , without having to select the drop dim option. Same applies to Multilines, text etc.

Sorry, but you did answer my question at all, you defined the tool behaviour for the most simple scenarios, where the solutions are quite obvious. But I asked if you have an idea how to solve the situations where more elements are selected (e.g. by fence) or there are different modes available for one element type (shared cell, dimensions). How the tool should work in such situation?

Regards,

Jan

Ian Lapper over 5 years ago

Jan.

OK , I will try explain..

If you use a Fence/selection set and select multiple items (different types). Can we not have a dialog that pops up, that allows us to select what we want to do with the listed elements. Thus if, I select a series of shapes, dims, text etc. The dialog will display these and allow me to automatically set which ones I want to drop.

Ian

Rod Wing over 5 years ago

I can see a separate Drop All tool that will drop any kind of element down to the most primitive element types. Similar to what we have the Smart Match along with Match Text Attributes, Match Dimension Attributes, Match Pattern Attributes, etc.

Grant Wood over 5 years ago

If you want the tool to be "smart" and drop whatever you click on why not just check all the boxes on by default? Then no mater what you click on it'll drop it's status as you desire.